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I'm building a '57 292 for a project and am installing a Comp cams camshaft in it. Spec are, gross lift both I&E .471      Duration @.015 tappet lift 261 Intake & 267 Exhaust      LSA 108* . My problem is this, when degreeing the cam I have to "retard" the cam 6*, my multi keyway timing gear set can be adjusted to 8* advance to 8* retarded so I,m not maxed out but 6* sounds a little far. What do you all think? I have checked and rechecked my process 3 times and it comes up the same. The cam card says I need a 108* intake center line. 
I did a on-line chat with Comp cams tech guy and he said it "sounds odd but strange things can happen with custom ground cams" & "just put it in and see how it runs" Someone on another site suggested checking the exhaust side to see if the cam was ground right and I guess I could figure out how to do that working off of the cam card but would I have to check each intake and exhaust lobe? Am I just over thinking? 

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We(Ted and I) found the Comp Camshafts for the Y block were ground on the wrong lifter angle and when you advanced or retarded the camshaft, it was off on every lobe from the cam card.  Straight up was the only way it matched the cam card.  Had 3 Jones camshafts the same problem.  Howards, Jones, Comp all use the wrong lifter angle when grinding their camshafts.  ISKY uses the correct angle, and you can advance or retard the ISKY with confidence.   Just my experience, but I called Mike Jones, and he now has the right angles, and he reground me three camshafts for free.  They checked out when degreeing after the modification to correct valve angle.  Joe-JDC

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Joe-JDC (3/5/2021)
We(Ted and I) found the Comp Camshafts for the Y block were ground on the wrong lifter angle and when you advanced or retarded the camshaft, it was off on every lobe from the cam card.  Straight up was the only way it matched the cam card.  Had 3 Jones camshafts the same problem.  Howards, Jones, Comp all use the wrong lifter angle when grinding their camshafts.  ISKY uses the correct angle, and you can advance or retard the ISKY with confidence.   Just my experience, but I called Mike Jones, and he now has the right angles, and he reground me three camshafts for free.  They checked out when degreeing after the modification to correct valve angle.  Joe-JDC

So, if I check the valve timing for opening timing and find they are not matching what the cam card says I should try setting it up "straight up" and recheck opening time to see if it then matches the cam card? 

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Forum Post Camshaft timing By 1946international ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post You might want to install it at 2 deg advance from what the cam card... By Cliff ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post We(Ted and I) found the Comp Camshafts for the Y block were ground on... By Joe-JDC ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]Joe-JDC (3/5/2021)[/b][hr] We(Ted and I) found the Comp... By 1946international ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]Cliff (3/5/2021)[/b][hr] You might want to install it at... By 1946international ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post Joe-JDC, I had some knowledge of lifter angle, but I did not know... By 55blacktie ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post As a general rule, always check both an intake and exhaust lobe on a... By Ted ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thanks Ted, for the very informative articles. I do have a question,... By BamaBob ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post The closer to the top you have the piston stop, the smaller the... By Joe-JDC ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thanks all for the replies. Ted asked if the timing set was new and... By 1946international ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post When I put a custom ground Isky cam in my 312 several years ago it was... By slumlord444 ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post Slumlord, Thanks for that. I'll do some rechecking today By 1946international ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post First, thanks for all the help. This is what I came up with.... By 1946international ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post Unless you also check the closing event side of the camshaft, it’s... By Ted ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post OK, so I'll move it 4* advance from where it is now. Thanks so much... By 1946international ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post You have to get your opening events, and your closing events, add them... By Joe-JDC ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post No, I did not do the closing events yet. I thought Ted was saying... By 1946international ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post That is not how I read it, but I will back out and let Ted answer if... By Joe-JDC ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]1946international (3/8/2021)[/b][hr]......Meaning, don't... By Ted ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post Joe, you are probably right I just checked the closing... By 1946international ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ted, thanks for the explanation, very helpful. so are you still... By 1946international ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]1946international (3/9/2021)[/b][hr]...so are you still... By Ted ( 4 Years Ago )
Forum Post Great, thanks again for all of your help and the rest of the board's... By 1946international ( 4 Years Ago )


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