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Carb questions with bigger cam

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Hi all,

Sorry, but Ive got some more carb questions...  I apologize for continuing to beg for help!

So here is the essence:

Car is a 56 sunliner, 292, ford-o, blue thunder intake, and mummert 270 cam, with 224 duration at .050.  (I mention that since it seems from what Ive read that this is a cutoff on some carbs - i.e. street demon 525 says for cams under 220 deg...)  Engine is healthy - compression was even when last checked (last year), new cap, plugs, wires.  Also has pertronix on a 57 dizzy.

Ive been working with 2 carbs - an edelbrock 500 and a holley 390.  Holley starts easier and has better throttle response (but still has some stumbling and spit back through carb at some points), but edelbrock runs better at wot (as would be expected with more cfm).

1)  Edelbrock carb pulls 11.5 in hg at idle, Holley pulls 7.5 at same RPM.  Does this make sense?  Not sure what this tells me or means, or if "thats just the way it is"

2)  I have been told to check the idle transfer slot on the Holley to make sure that I dont need to drill a small hole in the primary plates.  The transfer slots are covered... but JUST barely.  the throttle blades measure .065" thick, but the most they cover the transfer slot is .028".... just barely... is this enough, or would the hole in the blades help?  I dont want to drill them and have it be wrong... what are the consequences?  I do know that the idle screws dont have a lot of impact on the vaccuum... meaning that it takes a fair bit of adjustment to see a difference.

Right now the holley has 56 primary jets, 62 secondary jets, 3.5 power valve, and a 25 shooter.  Not sure if anything seems out of whack on that or if anyone has any recommendations?

Does any of this make sense?  I am getting really frustrated with trying to get a carb (ANY carb!) to run what I would consider right - easy starts, pulls evenly, without bogs or stumbles, with decent throttle response/mileage (is that oo much to ask???)  I think I wnat to try to get the holley dialed in first, as I dont drag race the thing, and the holley seems easiest to tune/adjust for me to learn on.

Please let me know if there is any more info that would help, or if anyone has any ideas/observations/different starting points?  Im really starting to regret the cam choice!

Ron Grove

Wauconda, IL


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Forum Post Carb questions with bigger cam By rgrove ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post Well just a first thouught about your carb question. If the Edelbrock... By Pete 55Tbird ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post Sounds like a lean condition on the holley, the power valve 3.5 seems... By speedpro56 ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]speedpro56 (9/25/2008)[/b][hr]While the carb is off check to... By rgrove ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]rgrove (9/28/2008)[/b][hr]Next question; I currently have a... By Ted ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]Ted (9/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]rgrove... By rgrove ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]rgrove (10/4/2008)[/b][hr]Is the only downside to too high... By Ted ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post OK, this is about a "built" 312 and then the owner puts a holley 390... By Pete 55Tbird ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]Pete 55Tbird (10/7/2008)[/b][hr]OK, this is about a "built"... By rgrove ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]rgrove (9/24/2008)[/b][hr] 1) Edelbrock carb pulls 11.5 in... By Ted ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thanks for the great replies! I guess i never thought of the holley... By rgrove ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post That is not too much cam for your application, I'm putting a larger... By speedpro56 ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post OK you love your cam. What kind of vacuum are you showing at idle in... By Pete 55Tbird ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]Pete 55Tbird (9/25/2008)[/b][hr]OK you love your cam. What... By rgrove ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post YES By Pete 55Tbird ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post Hey Gary, Is that a Comp Cams item? I know you have said you have... By Ol Ford Guy ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post I'ts obvious that the cam is not the problem. One carb ( edelbrock )... By speedpro56 ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post Had quite a few problems in recent years with Holley's. I've even had... By pegleg ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post OK, rgrove started this thread by saying his built 312 has an issue he... By Pete 55Tbird ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post Pete, I'm not sure how you figure the cam will cause two... By pegleg ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post Frank thanks for your answer. My concern/question was if this cam that... By Pete 55Tbird ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post Paul and Pete, The comp cam part # 12-222-4 224 @ .050 270 adv... By speedpro56 ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post RG, Noticed there's been no mention of initial timing here.... By pegleg ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post holley says to take your manifold vacuum reading at idle & halve it so... By Moz ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ron because the 390 cfm carb is small I would try going back up to the... By speedpro56 ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]speedpro56 (9/29/2008)[/b][hr]Ron because the 390 cfm carb... By rgrove ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]speedpro56 (9/29/2008)[/b][hr]Ron because the 390 cfm carb... By rgrove ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post Remove the vacuum advance line to the distributor and plug it before... By pegleg ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post That is correct. In the center of the spoke which is approx an inch... By speedpro56 ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post I don't believe you will pick up any more power at wot but you will... By speedpro56 ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post Pete, this is not to argue or anything like that but this informatiom... By speedpro56 ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ron, The answer depends on which 390 you're messing with.... By pegleg ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post Frank, Thanks for the reply! I think I will not mess with it much... By rgrove ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ron, I vote for the Demon unless somebody gives you the... By pegleg ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post ha ha ha! Not sure what I would do with a carb that worked! I... By rgrove ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]pegleg (10/8/2008)[/b][hr]Ron, I vote for the Demon... By rgrove ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]rgrove (10/8/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]pegleg... By Ted ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post While I am not sure about how pass. dampers are constructed (T-Bird... By DANIEL TINDER ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]DANIEL TINDER (10/8/2008)[/b][hr]While I am not sure about... By rgrove ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post The Edelbrock you have is also for use with cams that have less than... By charliemccraney ( 17 Years Ago )
Forum Post Keep in mind that the timing technique I suggested is for the... By speedpro56 ( 17 Years Ago )


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