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KULTULZ
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"Kultulz...seems like you'd have to get maybe a 1" thick spacer with 1.5" throttle holes and gasket match the the holes on the "top" side with a die grinder." I had saved a photo from EvilBay where a seller listed an ECZ-B and it showed hogged-out carb pad throttle bores. GNARLY ain't the word and would interfere with proper flow. The F4100 ADAPTER sold by SPEEDWAY (and others) shows the transitioning bores not directly lining up with the intake bores. I am wondering if someone like TED could machine a proper adapter (and how much) to make the transition cleaner for a 1.5in carb throttle bore.. Otherwise, one would have to use the period 1.5in throttle bore carbs (HOLLEY-FORD-CARTER) or have the carb pad modified. One would also have to cipher on TED's dyno pulls to find the best method to use (IMO). The problem with a BIRD is hood clearance and an adapter/spacer cannot be used. The 1957 H-4150 is expensive if you can find one.
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Ted (8/10/2025)
The stock throttle bore size at the carburetor flange is 1.500”. The replacement 465 cfm Holley carbs for the 1957 Thunderbird match this perfectly. To use some of the newer aftermarket carburetors, it will be necessary to either enlarge those bore sizes or use a carburetor spacer that accommodates the throttle bore size of the carb that’s being used. The throttle bore size of most 600 cfm carbs is 1.560” while the throttle bore size for 750 carbs is 1.690” and 1.735” for 850 carbs. In a perfect world, it’s desired to not have any ‘ledges’ in the flow path. For additional performance, there is an advantage to machining the four holes at the carb flange to a two-slot configuration. The slots are made larger to accommodate the later model carburetors. This by itself is worth ~6 HP without any other mods or porting to the manifold.
Would you be able to modify my manifold? My 292 is stock, are there any other porting mods for the manifold?
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Deyomatic
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Kultulz...seems like you'd have to get maybe a 1" thick spacer with 1.5" throttle holes and gasket match the the holes on the "top" side with a die grinder.
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55blacktie
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I seem to recall Dan Jessup realizing a performance gain when using the ECZ-B intake on the earlier (smaller) heads. You might ask him.
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DANIEL TINDER
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The ‘55 heads will have smaller intake ports. You may suffer some flow restriction/turbulence issues, though how significant I wouldn’t know.
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KULTULZ
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... hmmph ... This brings up another little factoid I have been wondering about. The carb pad throttle bores on the ECZ-B are 1.5in (and I assume on the 55 and 56 4V intakes also) and if one wants to go with a larger carb either has to modify the carb pad throttle bores (which will affect resale value of the intake) or use a step adapter. The step adapter throttle bores do not not perfectly align with the carb pad bores but has a mis-match. How difficult would it be to fabricate a spacer/adapter (alum or phenolic) that the bores would align?
But with a BIRD and required carb height for hood closure this would,not apply. But still wondering for later carb use (H1850) for PASS CAR w/o having to modify a high dollar ECZ-B intake.
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KULTULZ
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Just a note - The 4V INTAKE MANIFOLD for the 1957/64 272/292 TRUCK was slightly different than the PASS CAR ECZ-B. I have never seen one (or realized it when I saw/worked on one). I would think the difference(s) would be for the governors and related.
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Yes - and later carb will require a later (57 and up) distributor.
54 Victoria 312; 48 Ford Conv 302, 56 Bird 312 Forever Ford Midland Park, NJ
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Deyomatic
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I think you're going to need to get a '57 and up distributor, also, for advance purposes.
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