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Efi-turbo Y-block dyno results

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Not a bad day, but lot's of things to improve is ahead Smile.

Our single turbo is too small and it generates too much exhaust back pressure. Our 30 lbs / hour fuel injectors are too small too and we had to raise the fuel pressure to compensate that.

Still, 329,5 Hp at only 4900 rpm and 630,3 Nm ( 465 lbs ) of torque at only 2600 rpm BigGrin.

Torque and Hp numbers kept going down as the revs got up and exhaust pressures kept increasing and there was no need to pull more than eight pulls because we didn't get more horsepower out of the mill. But every time we screwed more boost pressure, the torque increased. And we used only 0.7 bar ( 10.3 psi ) boost pressure.

I will post the dyno sheets later and also a link to a short video at youtube after I have made it.

Ok, and we didn't broke anything exept one Crane Xr-i module due false wiring. ( Damn Simo BigGrin )

 

Here is a video of that session... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yFwrPj8SnU  enjoy!

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465 foot lbs!!! whoa!Tongue

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can you share some details on your efi???? what did you use for an intake? was it a factory? Blue thunder? what efi system did you use?  please be very specific cause i am planning on efi for my 292 and would like some specifics please. thank you.
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Ok, and we didn't broke anything exept one Crane Xr-i module due false wiring. ( Damn Simo BigGrin









Soorrryyy!!!!



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can you share some details on your efi???? what did you use for an intake? was it a factory? Blue thunder? what efi system did you use? please be very specific cause i am planning on efi for my 292 and would like some specifics please. thank you.


Megasquirt DIY-EFI-system, 30lbs injectors, JAW DIY-wideband, Hollow Head Racing Team aluminum intake manifold by head engineer Seppo Kokko.



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Test number8
Barom [mbar]1020
Humidity [%]40
Total coeff1,022
Fuel S.G.0,746
  
Torque
Nm
CTorque
Nm
CPower
hp
Air temp
C
H2O
C
temp4
C
OIL p
Bar
Boost
Bar
Fuel P
Bar
 EG Press 4
Bar
Lambda 1
Lambda 2
Fuel
g/kWh
Fuel
l/h
2600619,4630,3229,722,971,629,64,80,674,530,620,810,835545
2700613,0623,8236,123,071,630,04,90,684,540,650,80,7935447
2800607,7618,4242,823,071,630,34,90,74,550,670,790,7936249
2900601,0611,6248,623,071,630,54,90,724,560,690,760,7835850
3000595,8606,3255,323,071,630,74,90,724,560,710,750,7836652
3100590,6601,0261,223,071,630,85,00,734,560,730,740,7636553
3200584,3594,7267,023,071,631,05,00,734,560,740,730,7536855
3300575,2585,3270,923,171,631,25,10,734,540,750,730,7437056
3400565,1575,1273,923,171,531,35,00,724,530,770,730,7437557
3500555,8565,6277,423,171,531,55,00,724,530,780,720,7338059
3600547,0556,7280,623,171,531,65,00,724,520,80,720,7237859
3700539,9549,5285,123,171,531,75,00,714,510,820,730,7238261
3800534,0543,4289,523,171,531,85,00,714,50,840,740,7239063
3900526,7536,1292,823,171,531,95,00,714,490,860,730,7339264
4000519,4528,6296,523,171,532,15,00,714,490,880,730,7439665
4100513,4522,5300,323,171,532,25,00,74,480,90,730,7439566
4200507,6516,6304,323,171,532,25,00,74,470,920,740,7439266
4300502,0510,9308,123,271,532,45,00,694,460,940,740,7538566
4400497,6506,4312,523,271,532,55,00,684,450,960,740,7538267
4500495,4504,2318,523,271,432,65,10,684,440,980,740,7538568
4600493,1501,9324,023,271,532,85,00,674,4110,740,7539471
4700486,3495,0326,623,271,433,15,00,674,41,020,740,7539772
4800479,5488,1328,823,271,433,55,00,664,391,030,740,7540374
4900470,8479,2329,523,371,234,05,00,664,381,050,740,7441075
5000459,2467,5328,023,370,934,55,10,664,381,060,740,7441376
5100447,9455,9326,023,370,734,95,10,654,361,070,730,7342777
5200433,6441,3322,023,370,535,45,10,644,351,070,730,7343478


-jyrki from Finland-

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Thanks Jyrkä. And in that chart temp 4 is temperature at intake duct after intercooler and that shows that our intercooler was very effective. Only +35 degrees celsius after eight pulls.



We didn't measure the before intercooler temperatures however.



No detonation issues with 33 degrees of advance at full throttle.

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Holy smokes.  That thing is cooking!  What type of heads, exhaust valves, and header pipe sizes were you running?  I am building a blown y-block and have a discussion going in another thread about what size headers to build.  Is your flow restriction in the heads, the headers, or both?  I am planning to run only about 6 psi of boost through the carburetors so might not see as much restriction as you did.
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The exhaust pressure is measured under the turbo flange, so the turbo is the biggest restriction. It just doesn't flow enough at the exhaust side and it starts to slow down the engine after 3000 rpm.  

Our primary tubes are 1.5 inch diameter from the inside and after the collectors the tube size is 2.5".

The down pipe from the turbo is 3" diameter.

6 psi is for chickens BigGrin. At first I planned to try 10 to 17 psi at the dyno, put I quess it was wise to stay at 10 psi with the totally stock bottom end with cast pistons and 630 Nm of torque?

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Seppo - Congrats on a great set of runs - you guys are really getting up on your game. The little roadster is going to be a wild ride.........

US guys - the conversion factor for "Newton Meters" to Ft-Lbs is:

Nm x .7306 = Ft-Lbs

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Sweet!  When you guys get all of that figured out it will be very strong.

Then you should put it into kit form.


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