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Doug T
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Several of my Yblock friends do not "like" NASCAR but I still prefer to see the Fords win. On a cold weekend with all the cars and tools ice cold there are worse things to do than watch the tube and see a Ford win and Dale Jr wipe out 10 cars. He and especially his dad epitomize what is wrong with scrubs to me.
Doug TThe Highlands, Louisville, Ky. 
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charliemccraney
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I got an idea. Why don't we create a form of racing where a car is purchased from the dealership, maybe it's stripped down a ittle to make it lighter and the motor is tweaked a little. We can call it stock car racing! This way, all of the spectators can associate with the cars on the track; they see them in their neighbors driveway.
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pegleg
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charliemccraney (2/17/2009) I got an idea. Why don't we create a form of racing where a car is purchased from the dealership, maybe it's stripped down a ittle to make it lighter and the motor is tweaked a little. We can call it stock car racing! This way, all of the spectators can associate with the cars on the track; they see them in their neighbors driveway.Thats how Nascar started. Problem was as the cars got faster people got killed. Imagine how long Kyle Bush would last in a 150 mph 427 '63 Galaxie with no roll cage, or safety equipment. I don't think you can go back.
Frank/Rebop Bristol, In ( by Elkhart)  
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charliemccraney
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I know. I just think they need to change the name if they are not, in fact, racing stock cars. They are not even remotely stock. I wonder if anything on those cars is found on any of the cars you can buy at the dealership. Does Ford even have a pushrod engine anymore?
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pegleg
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Up until this (last) fall they had the 3.0 Vulcan in the Ranger. But I just picked up a Brochure and it's gone. All that's left is the Twin cam four and the single cam 4.0 v6's. So no, there no more Ford pushrod engines, except the diesel, which is a Navistar anyhow. By the way, Dougie, I was rootin' for Bill Elliot in the Woods Brothers Ford. What a story that would have been!
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bird55
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Actually, I don't think the advertising does call them "STOCK" cars anymore, just "NASCAR racing. could be wrong. And I agree they aren't, of course. BUt they do ALL have FORD 9" rearends so I've been told. All the same kind of frames, etc, etc. blah, blah, blah. But I still end up watching it - and I'm not being sarcastic here - it's great to take a nap somewhere in the middle and wake up to see the finish. HA
A L A N F R A K E S ~ Tulsa, OK
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Doug T
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Yeh Bill Elliott and the Woods Bros would have been a real story but really any Ford is OK with me. There were 8 Fords and 15 scrubs in the race. 5 of the Fords were Roush Fenway. I would like to know more about the technology of the whole car, For example I don't think the rear axle is still a 9" because the the high offset causes more power loss than other axles, but I don't know for sure. 2 hp per cubic inch @ 10,000RPM with 2 valves per cyl and push rods is damn impressive no matter what. Also it p_sses me off that the local paper had an article from AP about how Kenseth wasn't enough of a draw for the track in California next Sunday. Of course if Junior had won it would only slightly short of the second coming. As Al says, in front of the TV is a good place for nap but I really did like to listen to NASCAR on the radio. still it is about the only continuing exposure auto racing gets and inspite of the minipulation of the classes and cautions etc it still produces more excitement, especially when a Ford beats a scrub, than any other racing venue.
Doug T The Highlands, Louisville, Ky. 
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GREENBIRD56
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I think the "make'em all just alike" scheme of equalizing the competition has had an unexpected ill effect on the "sport". It has created the same thing we see every week during the whole season - pack racing - a sort of 500 mile morning freeway drive. It turns out to prove that within a group of about 20 or 25 - even the drivers are just about as equal as the cars. I personally don't have any ill will for Matt Kenseth or any of the others (I'm also an old time Bill and Ernie Elliot fan) - but pack racing, keeping them all within a quarter mile of each other on the lead lap, by making all of the cars just alike.......is boring as all get out. And its asking for the usual "big one" freeway accident - tailgating at its finest. What's the Petty line? "I'd rather be lucky than good".......he's right. I have decided the only way to get this strung out properly - is to let'em cheat - it'll get all those creative juices flowing again! Let'em get their tires from different manufacturers - put a can of "juice" in the fuel can - I don't care what it is - put a funky spring or shock package on there - maybe it would be best if it was a "claimer" style of racing if they want to limit the engine cost - who knows. I know one thing - one day all of the just alike pack races are going to burn out the viewing audience.
Steve Metzger Tucson, Arizona
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PWH42
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Doug.....They do still use what is basically the Ford 9 inch design.Of course it's a better built than Ford ever built them,but they still look the same.My son works for Roush and you wouldn't believe how many rear end sets they have laying around.It's about the last remnant of the true stock car.Pre-COT cars still had to have the factory roof,but now that's gone.

Paul, Boonville,MO
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PWH42
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Good to see Awesome Bill in a red Ford again.Now if he could just get the number 9 back,it would look like the days when Nascar was about racing.

Paul, Boonville,MO
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