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2009 Engine Masters Challenge rules change

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An exception has been made regarding the mushroom lifter rule that has kept the Ford Y-Block engines from being a viable engine option in the 2007 and 2008 Engine Masters Challenge competitions.  Here’s the revised ruling:

 

CAMSHAFT/LIFTERS/TIMING BELTS-CHAINS -AMENDMENT 00410900
Camshaft must maintain OEM journal diameters as originally manufactured in production for a given engine type. Roller cam bearings are prohibited. Custom-designed and custom-ground camshafts are acceptable. Flat-tappet, solid roller and hydraulic roller designs are legal. Mushroom, ceramic, or composite lifters, for example “Schubeck” lifters are prohibited unless factory installed OEM item for engine used / Example: Ford Y-Block 312 engines. Lifters must be unmodified out-of-the-box parts, hydraulic or solid, and cannot be altered in any way from their manufactured as-new state.

 

Here’s the link to the 2009 rules for the EMC challenge:

http://krang.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/challenge/0901em_official_rules_040109.pdf

 

As I am officially entered and currently #1 on the alternate list, I’ll be pursuing a Y buildup for this years competition.  A couple of items needed at this point in time are a good set of chassis headers and a SFI approved standard trans flywheel.  I am currently assembling a 312 dyno mule to do some preliminary testing which makes headers of varying designs and tube diameters desirable so just email or phone me if you think you’ve got something that may be suitable in this regard.  Also on the list of needed items would be a Rebop aluminum timing cover and waterpump but these two items may be difficult to get based on communications with Frank and realizing that other forum members are also looking for the same items.  My contact information is located at www.eatonbalancing.com  .

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Ted, I currently attend the college where the challenge takes place. If you need any assistance with getting the motor there, I hope to be at the shoot-out this year. At the very least hope to see you around the challenge. -Andrew

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Ted:

I have a Schieffer aluminum flywheel, but it is from the '60s and SFI probably didn't exist then.  It was originally bronze faced, but the bronze started flaking.  So I sent it back to Schieffer and they put a steel face on it.  Then I stored it in the basement and the steel suffered some pitting.  You are welcome to use it if it is viable.

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Ted, How about the headers you got from me last year? Looked like a decent flow design. Can you possibly use the Thomas rockers? Chuck in NH

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Ted, you can use my tbird headers as we discussed, just let me know when where and how, etc.

BTW Thanks for staying on top of the challenge.

Most people would have given up, i think.

Maybe the y will have it's day yet.














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mr4speedford (4/3/2009)
Ted, I currently attend the college where the challenge takes place. If you need any assistance with getting the motor there, I hope to be at the shoot-out this year. At the very least hope to see you around the challenge. -Andrew

Andrew.  I’ll look forward to seeing you there.  Unfortunately the timespan between Columbus and the EMC shootout is too great and leaves some serious time for testing laying on the table but I’ll keep your offer in mind as there’s plenty of time for things to change.

Hoosier Hurricane (4/3/2009)
I have a Schieffer aluminum flywheel...You are welcome to use it if it is viable.

John.  Rules are specific towards using steel.  I had an SFI approved flywheel for a Y two years ago but let it go so I’ll start working towards getting another.  Talked to Gary last night and he may have an out for me there.

Moonshadow (4/3/2009)
Ted, How about the headers you got from me last year? Looked like a decent flow design. Can you possibly use the Thomas rockers?

Chuck.  Haven’t forgot those headers as they are part of the pile slated for dyno testing.  I took a hard look at the tri-y configuration on them and they appear to be in an incorrect pattern for a Y-Block firing order but I'm going to look at that again in detail.  We'll save the Thomas rockers for your combination as I've got other rockers in mind for the EMC engine.

bird55 (4/3/2009)
Ted, you can use my tbird headers as we discussed, just let me know when where and how, etc.

Al.  I’ll give you a call when the time comes as Thunderbird tube headers come closest to being legal for the competition while making the best power.  Gut feel says 1 ¾” tubes so your 1 5/8” tubes may not be adequate but dyno testing should confirm this.

The RPM ranges for this years competition has changed from 2500-6500 to 3000-7000 so that's also changed the complexity of the engine combination from the last couple of years.

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Ted, just as a reference point, the headers I have start at 1 5/8" and at about 5 " step up to 1 3/4". If that helps.









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Mr.Y-Guy Ted:      Crazy idea, sell 50 raffle tickets(limit it to one each)for $50-75.

                  That will fund the engine job (maybe?) and give you some traveling $$

                  so all of this doesn't have to come totally out of your pocket.

                           When the winning is over!!!! Raffle it off.

                                                       Bill

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Y-Guys       My math is lacking(see previous post)I meant 100 tickets!!

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Ted: John Mummert advertises various fly wheels, would any of them be suitable? Maybe he would consider loaning you one?

Paul


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