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Bent a pushrod on startup........fresh heads/valve job.

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Just for the record, the head I sent crab was a rebuilt 113 with new cast guides, hard steel ex seats and good used (refaced, so they were checked for run-out) intake valves. The exhaust valves were left out so crab could install new ones of his own.

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You didn’t mention how long your car was down for repairs so I’ll touch on fuel age as being a possible culprit.  Old fuel can allow the vehicle to crank up okay but a varnish build up occurs in the intake guides on that first intial drive.  As long as the engine is heated, a problem usually doesn't surface.  Once the engine cools, this buildup will allow the valve to drag extremely hard in its guide and bent pushrods are the first indication of something going on.  This is something that will be seen on the intake valves and not the exhausts and it’s only when the engine has cooled and is restarted cold that this particular problem comes to the forefront.  But from experience, the fuel typically smells old (turpintiney) at the exhaust when it's old enough to do this.

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Thanks Ted, I had previously drained all the old fuel from the tank, about 10 gallons sat in there for 15 years. We have been adding a bit here and there to get it running, so I suppose its possible that could  be partly the cause. I did put 4 gallons in yesterday before starting it, and we plan to fill it when we get near a station.
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I would get rid of every drop of the old gas. In fact I buy repop gas tanks for all my old jalopies. It doesn't take much stale gas to cause an intake valve to hang open. You can add a stabilizer to gas when it is fresh and prolong the life of the gas, but once it is stale, it is nothing but trouble.

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Same thing happened again tonight, same valve and I saw it stuck down. When I came back from the phone it was up, so I replaced the pushrod and it started normal. Took the car out and drove to the gas station for a fillup, and ran it hard on the freeway for about 6 miles. Car sounds and runs great, hoping the fresh 15 gallons of fuel will clear things up. Either way, we need to just run this thing a while I think and hopefully things will settle down. I got to admit, that little 312 with 3.56 gears  gets up and goes real good, 60-80 don't take long at all.
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I just experianced the same thing as Crab with my truck, and for what reason I don't know why. Rebuilt rocker shafts, all new NAPA pushrods, and been driving the truck about 2-3 days a week with a lot of new fuel going trough it. I go and recheck all the valves for adjustment and their all where I set them when I did them last. There is no fuel problem since I fill it about every other week. The last time this happened I was driving back from our new house we bought, ( about a 90 miles round trip)  backed off on it coming up to a stop sign, and when I took off it started missing a little, but was better at speed. I took the valve cover off and two pushrods were not under the rocker, one exhaust and one intake on different cylinders, just doesn't make any sense to me. I've probably got 1200 miles on a new motor now.

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Some what related, I have a customer with a 460 in his service truck and he would bend a pushrod about once or twice a year till he got about 25000 on the truck. He just kept putting new pushrods in, never bent a valve and the thing runs great otherwise.  Go figure.

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Sometimes this pushrod issue has to do with certain intake bolts, that if replaced with the wrong length - stick down into the pushrod passage. Its worth looking down the holes with an inspection light - or looking for signs of contact on a bent part if you fish it out without losing it into the valley.

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Back in 1976, my grandfather gave me a '63 F-100 w/ a 292 to drive back and forth to H.S. When he gave it to me he told me to always add some MMO to each tank of gas, & some at oil changes, to keep the valves from sticking & pushrods from bending/ falling out. I did so religiously the 5 yrs or so I had it, and he was right - worked like a charm... /Duck

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/Duck (5/2/2009)
Back in 1976, my grandfather gave me a '63 F-100 w/ a 292 to drive back and forth to H.S. When he gave it to me he told me to always add some MMO to each tank of gas, & some at oil changes, to keep the valves from sticking & pushrods from bending/ falling out. I did so religiously the 5 yrs or so I had it, and he was right - worked like a charm... /Duck
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