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Need help Fuel pump and bypass restrictor

Posted By Eddie Paskey 15 Years Ago
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Eddie Paskey
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Hey Steve and Rono;  Thanks for the info. Yeah I know about that storage stuff, got some Honey-Do's and Daughter-Do's so it will be a while before I get back to the Bird.  Steve the closeness of the crossmember is what I'm concerned about.  Rono that Edeb. pump may be the answer.  Do you guys think it's too big?? Running 331 stroker, also running a Holley The guy that built it for me modifies and builds carbs for several NASCAR teams.  Man it sure made a difference, but sure loves the gas stations.  When I had the car on the dyno it was running out of fuel at high RPMs, will be changing tank with 3/8's pickup and 3/8's all the way to the pump.  Sure is fun!!!

Steve I'm going to try the restrictor, will let you know if there is any difference!!

As a side note--   Lower steady rest brackets where loose so welded the sides, guess rivets had worn-- made a funny rattle noiise.  With the weld and new gromets and bushings it just seems tighter. You Guys with birds maybe should check those???     Sorry to write a book!!   MANY THANKS      God Bless   Eddie

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Lake Forest, Ca. 92630

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I would have used the bigger pump myself - but on a T-bird, the working space gets pretty tight.......

the crossmember is right there under the pump.

If you are building an outfit that has space for one - I'm sure there are some good alternatives.

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 Steve Metzger       Tucson, Arizona

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Guys;

For what its worth, I just bought an Edelbrock Performer #1724 mechanical fuel pump (390, 427, 428 FE ) for the 331 cu.  in. Y-block I'm building. I've looked at alot of pumps because I need to boost reference the pump for the supercharger and with this pump I was able to tap the vent hole for a 3/16" hose fitting. This pump is rated at 110 GPH, uses 3/8" inlet and outlet fittings and the bottom 1/2 of the pump can be rotated for best fuel line routing. I Bought it through Summit Racing.

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Eddie - I just used a best guess for the hole in the brass bypass plug - 3/16. That ought to let the air migrate up if it needs to. The T-bird is "trapped" in the garage at the moment (Oldsmobile in the way) and it hasn't gotten any attemntion lately. The pile of stuff to be modified, assembled or tested is growing.........so the plug is sitting on the air cleaner at storage location "T".

The fuel pump question is a good one - I haven't seen a Carter high capacity fuel pump on a T-bird frame. The Airtex 362 (428) pump I put on my outfit had to have the lower housing unscrewed and "clocked" around to get its pressure port in a good spot for plumbing, This pump very much resembles the Holley 80 gph pump sold for the FE engines - and I'd guess it is close on performance.

Holley seems to be the only outfit that publishes a performance curve for their mechanical fuel pump product. The 80 gallons per hour sounds good - but that number is given at zero backpressure. The curve they publish shows that the 80 gph pump can keep up the required "pounds per horsepower hour" for an engine in the 300-325 hp range - at the kind of pressure you need to keep the carb filled (like 5-1/2 to 6 psi or so).

I've noticed - for whatever reason - the Holley pumps for the Ford application have 1/4 NPT plumbing ports and the chebbie pumps say 3/8 NPT. The parts look interchangable so I would assume that the lower "bowl" of the chebbie pump could be fitted to the FE model of pump. The 3/8 port is attractive if you are running a "full mechanical" system with a suction line back to the tank. Restriction is way worse for performance on the suction side than the pressure side.

  

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 Steve Metzger       Tucson, Arizona

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Hey Guys;  While changing my steady mounts and bushings, noticed outlet fitting on fuel is very close to frame,  Does anyone remember what pump I can use have a Carter on it now, Also what is the 427 number for more fuel flow???  

Steve; did you get the by pass hose restrictor in your Bird. Did it make any difference and how large is the hole you drilled.  As you-- would like to stabalize idle adjustment, after running awhile the idle adjustment  is off. 

 Thanks To all --   Hope everyone had a Happy New Year.   Just recieved my new Y-Block mag.  TED"S a WINNER!!!!

God Bless     Eddie

Eddie

Lake Forest, Ca. 92630



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