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Lucky 312 find. A different setup than usual.

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46yblock
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I picked this up today.  It was supposed to be a 292 out of a '59 1 ton.  Ended up being a 312, ECZ block and crank, pair of small G heads, ball bearing dist. with good vacuum advance, and 4V intake.  It has an odd two outlet thermostat housing and a crankshaft mounted fan.  Turns over easily, fresh looking antifreeze in block, and top of heads werent nearly as sludged up as expected.  The crank flange has a nice single easy to see raised dot opposite the half moon cutout.   

There is a car water pump, the front dipstick tube is RTV sealed at the top, truck rear sump oil pan, grade 8 head bolts, and highratio rockers. 

The young man said he salvaged the '59 and the engine was one of the few things worth keeping.  According to him the previous 59 owner took the engine out of a cabover Coca Cola Truck.  There had been RamsHorns but they were broken up and salvaged.  Before they broke the exhausts he said he had the engine running and it was smooth.

And the engine was located only 3 miles away, in Williams, OR w00t .

Just a lucky day!  

 

Mike, located in the Siskiyou mountains, Southern, OR 292 powered 1946 Ford 1/2 ton, '62 Mercury Meteor, '55 Country Squire (parting out), '64 Falcon, '54 Ford 600 tractor.


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Great find! You know Tim McMaster is looking for a 312 crank...dunno what you plan to do with it, but I am sure you will have some interested parties on this site (myself notwithstanding!) BigGrin

Reminds me a little of the time 4 or 5 years ago when a scrub hot rodder called me up and asked me if I wanted a Y block, I looked it at it and said how much do you want? He said, "That thing ain't worth nothing - just get it out of my way" Ended up having good G heads, good carb, block, and all the rest...solid 292...FOR FREE!

Haven't had one like that in quite some time.

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Dan, if the guy's history was correct back to the Coke truck, this thing would have gone from a Tbird (or Merc), to Cabover delivery truck, to 1 ton flatbed.  Quite a journey. 

I dont have any plans for it, with too many other engine related things to do now.  So will probably sell it.  Would like to get an idea of the bearing and crank condition first.

Mike, located in the Siskiyou mountains, Southern, OR 292 powered 1946 Ford 1/2 ton, '62 Mercury Meteor, '55 Country Squire (parting out), '64 Falcon, '54 Ford 600 tractor.


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That fan isinteresting and looks like it would work when sticking a Y block in a 40 ford,I think the 40s had the fan on the crank too.

Butchering up everything I can get my hands on in Dayton Ohio
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Jeff, here is a pic of the hub which the fan attaches to. 

Mike, located in the Siskiyou mountains, Southern, OR 292 powered 1946 Ford 1/2 ton, '62 Mercury Meteor, '55 Country Squire (parting out), '64 Falcon, '54 Ford 600 tractor.


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Nice score!  I have a few hubs like the one there, they cam off of COEs.

http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/b1f2e0d6-2566-46b3-b81d-3ff3.jpg   God Bless. Smile  Tim                           http://yblockguy.com/

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Is this really a good way to lower a fan? Seems like I've seen it before but had forgoten. Didn't even come to mind when we were talking about the hot rod application. Will other accessory pulleys work with it? Chuck in NH 

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The cab-over trucks had the fan placed like that on the end of the crankshaft. One of the big problems with the fan installed there was the fan sat a longways out from the front main bearing and if you revved the engine very high it would break the crankshaft snout behind the timing gear right at the main. Ford came out later with the steel crank for these engines. Trucks had 292's if that is a 312 someone has changed that engine during its lifetime. If you use that crank check it closely for either a bent or cracked snout.



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The cab-over trucks had the fan placed like that on the end of the crankshaft. One of the big problems with the fan installed there was the fan sat a longways out from the front main bearing and if you revved the engine very high it would break the crankshaft snout behind the timing gear right at the main. Ford came out later with the steel crank for these engines. Trucks had 292's if that is a 312 someone has changed that engine during its lifetime. If you use that crank check it closely for either a bent or cracked snout.

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There is good reason to believe the 312 sat in three different vehicles during the last 54 years.  Hopefully a fourth is in the future.

Upon finding out the motor went into the '59 from a COE coke truck and had Rams Horns, a steel crank possibility was my main hope.  When I looked at the engine the afternoon before pickup, I really didnt look at it.  Because upon first seeing the B intake it was obvious the engine was worth more than being asked, no matter what it was.

With the heavy duty service seen by the motor, a complete evaluation of the block  as well as the crank would be prudent. 

Mike, located in the Siskiyou mountains, Southern, OR 292 powered 1946 Ford 1/2 ton, '62 Mercury Meteor, '55 Country Squire (parting out), '64 Falcon, '54 Ford 600 tractor.


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Those engines can take HD use and still survive. There is likely nothing wrong with the crankshaft. Just an area to watch. I have a B9AE block that had a broken crank snout it checked out good.



We had a 59 F-600 COE as a tow truck. Were we had the crankshaft failures was in the winter time the drivers would get stuck in the snow and with no weight other than the deck on the truck they would put the truck in third gear, pin the motor and burn it till they got out. On the third time the boss was ....not happy. We put a later engine in it with the steel crank and no more problem. I think the steel cranks came out in 1961. That engine still was in the truck in 1974 when the truck was replaced.


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