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Thanks for the good info. The oil pan has a tag from Valley Engine Rebuilding in Salinas, Ca. I remember them being a long-time business but apparently no longer happening. Phone disconnected. The build sheet is from 1996 but states a 40 over bore. The build sheet doesn't have any logo or letter head identifying where it came from. The cylinders all measured within spec with a dial indicator bore gauge. The Conformatic pistons are stamped STD and new looking but no Ford numbers or logo. All the sleeves look uniform in thickness. Looked at the water jackets as best as possible through the freeze plugs, etc. and wasn't able to see any cracks or exposed areas. Unless I find a solid reason to change to a 292/312 crank combo, it will go back together with a new set of rings.
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Thanks for the good info. The oil pan has a tag from Valley Engine Rebuilding in Salinas, Ca. I remember them being a long-time business but apparently no longer happening. Phone disconnected. The build sheet is from 1996 but states a 40 over bore. The build sheet doesn't have any logo or letter head identifying where it came from. The cylinders all measured within spec with a dial indicator bore gauge. The Conformatic pistons are stamped STD and new looking but no Ford numbers or logo. All the sleeves look uniform in thickness. Looked at the water jackets as best as possible through the freeze plugs, etc. and wasn't able to see any cracks or exposed areas. Unless I find a solid reason to change to a 292/312 crank combo, it will go back together with a new set of rings.

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I have found that sleeving all eight cyl's was common practice for Fred Jones (authorized rebuilder for ford), I have found three 292's that had eight sleeves over the years and all of them had a Fred Jones rebuild tag on them. They used Ford factory pistons, so I assume that they must have had a stock of standard pistons, so sleeving all eight was a way of using them. By the way all of these blocks still looked good and could have been reringed and used again.

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As long as the sleeve is properly installed, there should not be an issue with the head gaskets.  One exception to this is if the sleeve was an overly thick one that required excess removal of the original cylinder wall into the water jackets, then the potential for coolant leakage into the combustion chamber where the head gasket sealing ring leaves the edge of the sleeve becomes more pronounced.

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It is my understanding that all aluminum block engine being produced today are sleeved.. except the new Ford 5.0 which is

sprayed cylinders..?? Correct me please..??

Brother and I own/operate 1957 Ford Fairlane 312/4x2 and two 1963 Falcons 302 rollers carburated 600cfm, FE427 sitting in shed..

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Not a big fan of Ebay for items like this. No photos of the cylinder walls, deck surface, water jackets, etc. Also the in-your-face tone of the add sets me back. It is a long way from the West Coast and I don't need an expensive boat anchor if it turns out badly. I will watch it though just out of curiosity. Given what the inside of the block looks like, those 62K miles were more like 162K.

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I"m watchin this and considered bidding BUT it sounds like you may need it more than I do right now?

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Yeah...I have read through the archives here and on the FE Forum about sleeves. My concern is an unstable or weakened deck and aluminum heads possibly making head gasket leaks a problem. I am using ARP hardware for the heads.

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The engine ran fine with the sleeves before. ReRing it and go for it there is no reason it shouldn't continue to work. Big truck engines are commonly sleeved and run lots of hard miles! Chuck's 2 cents

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Well,I still say NO !!!

But read what the experts believe.

http://www.y-blocksforever.com/forums/Topic57610-3-1.aspx

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