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Is it a 312 or 292??

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The 113's are worth having - big intake valves and they are "posted" - have the re-inforced chamber deck.

Milling them flat would deal with the 3 cc's difference.......

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Ok gurus, I've got one for ya....the "57 Fairlane" motor that I went and looked at is a 272. It's an ECG Dearborn casting but the heads are the later 5752-113 heads.

Was that a common thing back then to swap heads for performance?

What can you tell me about the 113 heads? Looks like they have the same larger valves as the G's but different cc.

Brad
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Well, got the engine today. Casting numbers are 17 above EDB above DIF by the distributor. Also EDB by the generator....which reading Mummert's site said with that, it should be a '57. The main number is EDB-6015-A. But the heads have ECZ-B casting numbers which is a '56 number for 292's and 312's.



Got a line on a long block that "supposedly" is the original motor out of a '57 Fairlane....some Fairlanes in '57 had 312's Smile But at the very least it should have G heads. So I'll be getting it probably, can't pass it up at 100 bucks. It's be worth that for the heads alone. Wink

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John Mummert (5/11/2012)
I always hesitate before saying always or never when it comes to Y-Blocks. However, I have never seen a Dearborn 312. Every 312 I have ever seen was a Cleveland block. In fact, even the Dearborn 292's (EDB near distributor) are fairly rare. The vast majority of Dearborn blocks were 272's in 55-56-57.
Dearborn blocks were not made after 1957.

Thanks John....yeah I'm not holding out hope that it's a 312. But I'm still pretty excited about the EDB casting....I'm hoping it's one of those "rare" ones.

I'll be picking it up Monday since the salvage yard owner finally got it pulled out for me. Hopefully by Tuesday I'll be able to post some pics of it and the casting #'s after eyeballing it better. Cool

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PF Arcand (5/10/2012)
Doug T is correct about the T-Bird fender emblems, often indicating a 4 Bbl 292. This was true in Canada also. Someone in the U.S.A. researched this and found that only about 17% of 1956 regular cars had 312s. Early in the year T.Birds, Merc's & official cars got priority before regular cars.




Correction noted! Thanks for catching that for me Doug and the additional info, Paul. Appreciated... still learnin'! Smile



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I always hesitate before saying always or never when it comes to Y-Blocks. However, I have never seen a Dearborn 312. Every 312 I have ever seen was a Cleveland block. In fact, even the Dearborn 292's (EDB near distributor) are fairly rare. The vast majority of Dearborn blocks were 272's in 55-56-57.

Dearborn blocks were not made after 1957.

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Don't get hung up trying to find a 312, a good 292 block will make a nice engine. Even the 272, if the block is good can make a nice package. I replied to your PM, I need to get with you and find out where this junk yard is located. I also have a complete 56 292 that might interest you.

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Yeah, I've pretty much come to the conclusion that it's a 292. And I'm good with that, especially if it turns out to be a Dearborn '57. Cool

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Doug T is correct about the T-Bird fender emblems, often indicating a 4 Bbl 292. This was true in Canada also. Someone in the U.S.A. researched this and found that only about 17% of 1956 regular cars had 312s. Early in the year T.Birds, Merc's & official cars got priority before regular cars.

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Sorry to disagree but back in the day I had a '56 car with the T Bird emblems on it.  It was an original car and definitely had the original engine with a TeaPot Holley. It definitely was a 292.  272's had the YV 8 a'la my avatar.  312's were relatively rare in '56

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