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Apache
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Here's the situation. After finally getting my A/C blowing cold again, I'm having voltage problems. 14 when i'm running, 13.7ish with brights on. But drops to 12.8 and creeps it's way under 12 when the A/C is engaged. I thought it was the alternator so put on another. Now I have the same problem AND NOW she's screaming like a Banshee too!!! Here's the link to the brackets, has anyone had any problems or heard of problems with these? Thanks, William http://www.nostalgicairparts.com/air-conditioning/ford-y-block-292-312-compressor-bracket-188.php
William
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Pete 55Tbird
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William Sounds like two seperate problems. How many AMPS is the alternator and what is the total load of your electrical system. AND what size pulley is on the crank vs the pulley on your alternator. Width of fan belt? First make sure it is not caused by a slipping belt, then go from there. Alignment of pulleys, size of groves in the pulley. Pete
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I'd go with a slipping belt. On mine, there isn't a whole lot of wrap on the alternator pulley, so just a little loose and the voltage drop was noticeable on the instruments. Tightening the belt cured it, or at least it did in the garage and everything seemed to work well on a recent 200+ mile trip. I had a problem with pulley alignment also so the belt would wear unusually fast, leading to the loose belt and associated problems.
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Apache
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I'll try to tighten up the belt even more, but there's really not much more room for tightening.
And it's a 63 amp alternator. I'm not running many accessories: electric fan, radio, headlights, dash lights, and signal lights, brake lights, A/C compressor, horn.... that's about it I think.
Thank you everyone for your help so far....
William
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miker
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When you added the alternator, did you do it as a 3 wire or a 1 wire? If your reading the output at the alt and not the battery, it may not be seeing the electrical load properly. When I added an alt several years ago, I used a 1 wire set up, and on my 'bird, I was down over one volt from the alt to the battery. Changed to 3 wires with the hookup at the battery, and it came right up to 13.7 at the battery. I also just added a/c, and the compressor and (in my case) electrical load for the fans, evap and condenser, was way more than I expected. I really saw it in the idle. My setup is classic auto air, but the brackets look very similar if not the same. No idea on the noise, except the belt as mentioned.
miker 55 bird, 32 cabrio F code Kent, WA Tucson, AZ
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Apache
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It's definitely correct at the battery. Was a 3 wire and I converted it to a 1 wire. Was running to the voltmeter, but to double check, I rewired it to run straight to the battery. It's really dropping 2+ volts when the compressor is engaged. I'll try tightening up more, could just be major slipping I guess....
William
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Rono
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William; I'm running the same set of brackets. I had to get the big bottom bracket with the slot in it for belt adjustment completely re-cut. The slot did not have enough length to get the belt adjusted tight enough. Luckily, there was a company where I lived with a CNC Plasma cutting machine. I made a cardboard template of the bracket, but extended the slot. Below is a picture of the new bracket with the longer slot. After the bracket was made, there was ALOT of tinkering with spacers to get the belts aligned. This configuration only allows the alternator belt to contact about 1/3 of the pulley so you have to hope it won't slip. I'm using a "Tuff Stuff" 100 AMP 1 wire alternator and so far it's providing enough juice. Rono
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Pete 55Tbird
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William If your loss of current from the alternator to the battery is being caused by a slipping belt the early Ford Mustang with A/C used TWO belts to drive the alernator and waterpump. Could this system work for you? Pete
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Don Woodruff
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Dont forget wire size, Wireing was sized for 30 amps, higher current draw will result in significant voltage drop, as in your original problem.
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Apache
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Rono (6/2/2012)
William; I'm running the same set of brackets. I had to get the bigbottom bracket with the slot in it for belt adjustmentcompletely re-cut. The slot did not have enough length to get the belt adjusted tight enough. Luckily, there was a company where I lived with a CNC Plasma cutting machine. I made a cardboard template of the bracket, but extended the slot. Below is a picture of the new bracket with the longer slot.  After the bracket was made, there was ALOT of tinkering with spacers to get the belts aligned. This configuration only allows the alternator belt to contact about 1/3 of the pulley so you have to hope it won't slip. I'm using a "Tuff Stuff" 100 AMP 1 wire alternator and so far it's providing enough juice. Rono Yeah, I have a gut feeling that the bracket made wasn't long enough to compensate for pulley coverage, which is causing major belt pressure issues. I did notice that the alternator and compressor also seem to be a tad bit more forward than the fan and crank pulley..hmmmm
William
1957 Ford Fairlane 500
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Fordomatic
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