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Difference between Bird and car engine and trans

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What has to be change to put motor and trans from a 56 Fairlane into a 56 Bird?

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There may be more items than I spec out here. Never did this swap. For sure the Front pullies and brackets are different. The exhaust manifolds are specific to the 'Birds. I'm guessing here but i believe the motor mounts and Transmission mounts must be changed along with the oil pan and oil pickup. Be best to have the original T'Bird engine available for comparision.

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Additionally you will need the front engine cover and front engine mount, side 'steady rests', T-Bird oil dip stick and tube, water pump spacer, generator brackets, thermostat housing, throttle and shift linkages...

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To add to what Frank has identified, you'll also need ...



- a 'Bird specific thermostat housing to orient the radiator hose appropriately...

- a 'Bird specific water pump spacer to align the water pump with the crankshaft damper...

- an oil dipstick tube for locating the tube on the passenger side of the block instead of front right...

- I think a 'Bird specific generator pulley to align with the water pump pulley and front damper...

- I think the water pump pulley is also 'Bird specific due to diameter and offset to align with other pulleys...

- a 'Bird air cleaner to clear the hood...

- the passenger car trans. shift linkage (not kickdown) will need 'modification' to work with 'Bird floor shifter...



As Frank said:

- 'Bird specific crankshaft damper... these are expensive and often need to have the donut behind the pulleys re-vulcanized... Damper Doctor full rebuild - $300 last I knew...

- 'Bird specific engine block metal motor mount brackets...

- 'Bird or pick-up truck front timing chain cover to permit front engine mount...

- 'Bird specific (?) front motor mount bracket... I think this is somehow different from the pick-up truck mount...

- driver's side exhaust manifold is 'Bird specific... often on eBay... reproduction available for North of $250

- 'Bird specific oil pan... looks similar to pick-up truck unit, but front section will not clear crossmember...



Passenger car side-of-block crankcase breather can be used, but outlet tube length may need to be shortened... not sure...



IF you desire to hook-up the 'Bird mechanical tach. you'll need a 'Bird specific tach drive distributor... like with the passenger cars, the '57 unit is the one to look for... or go aftermarket...



Hope this helps... a bit rusty on some things because I did this in an earlier life! Smile

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To add:

Crankcase ventilation is draft tube off the valley cover

Valley Cover

Generator is different - front pulley is different and location of the 1/4 " stud in the back is oriented differently, although the car one will work (and you can buy a kit to change the stud to the TBird location). Quite sure the main part of the generator is the same.


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which reminds me. I have a couple aluminum Water pump spacers left. They'll be the last ones.

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Hi.I need a water pump spacer for 1956 .312.If you have one will you sell it and how much?Thanx Bob from Maine 207 985 8532.

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