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That is Bruce Young, not Jim at Y Bock Magazine.

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I am pretty sure that the generator bracketry for the 54 on up Y blocks are the same on the passenger cars and that therefore the pulley backspacing and the crankshaft dampener should all line up... Maybe the fan spacer could be a different depth?

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Jim Young of Y-block magazine has had a lot of 54's with different Y-block motors in them. Try to contact him at yblockmag@yahoo.com He works nights and with the Magazine he is not home alot. I am sure he can help.

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Just a few thoughts concerning the coolant flow rate: The only time the lower flow rate of the 239 pump would be of an issue is when you are pulling more horsepower than a 239 engine is capable of - and then only on a hot day. If the 239 pump is smaller than the larger Y-blocks, then it seems reasonable to expect that the 239 radiator is also smaller. Again, the only time the smaller radiator would be of an issue is when you are pulling more horsepower than a 239 engine is capable of on a hot day. If the 239 radiator is smaller, it would have a lower tube count which means a smaller area in which the coolant must flow compared to a larger radiator. This would result in a higher tube velocity, which might result in too much turbulence and possibly air entering the coolant (not good). The suction side of any pump is always a critical issue. If you are going to use a smaller hose inside the larger one for transitioning, I would at least bevel the inside of the smaller hose on the upstream side. A better choice would be to use a special hose with the two end sizes you need with gradual transitioning. The reason, again, is to prevent air from entering the pump which could cause cavitation (very bad).
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Thanks guys all good gouge, it seems like the same problems I had converting my 53 chevy 2i6 /6 when I put in a 58 /235 but on that engine the water pump is in a lower position on the engine and the shaft is too long, after marked makes a short shaft pump to solve this, but cooling is still a problem because the fan is now located near the bottom of the radiator, and does not pull air through the middle so to prevent overheating when not moving forward, requires a electric fan located in the front of the radiator, if i can i will swap out the timing cover and water pump but as stated maybe the flow will not be enough to cool the bigger engine, it the 292 pump is not too long, I will keep those components in tact, I don't need to worry about the different size hose ends, I could do what I did with the same problem on the chevy ,I just cut a pice off the old hose and used it as a spacer and slipped the larger hose over it, and clamped it down ,never had a problem. but if napa has A hose that works I would use theres, does any one know the part number?
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Thanks Dan, what year water pumps have a short shaft , equal to the length of the 239 ,so I don't have to relocate the radiator ?
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On the 239 Water Pump and the smaller diameter hose, etc. The last time I mixed a 54 radiator with a 56 water pump (last January) the local Napa had what I needed right off the shelf.

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rotormax: If you haven't done so already, you should also seriously consider converting to a dual exhaust setup. Testing has shown that the front crossover exhaust setup is very inefficient..

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To use the 239 water pump you will also have to use the 239 timing cover and fuel pump. But that is a bolt on, and the lower radiator hose will be the stock 239 hose. The bigger engines have a bigger lower hose, so to connect them to the '54 radiator will require a hose with two different sized ends. I'm not sure a 272/292 water pump is any longer than the 239, measure them.

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The 239 water pumps are physically smaller than the water pumps used on the larger engines. You would have to use the 239 timing cover with the 239 water pump.

What I don't know is if the 239 water pump will move enough water in a larger, hotter motor. My 239 is now 283 inches and the water pump is big enough for that, however I haven't pulled the camper yet.

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