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Posted By XNoctemNacimur 16 Years Ago
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alright so i have my rings in and it runs pretty well but it smokes from the road draft tube, dipstick and the filler. actually pretty good. i made sure to off set the ring gaps. so i'm hoping the rings need to settle and the blow by will go away. anyone got tips tricks or ideas?
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Were the cylinders honed? Were they checked for out of round or taper? Are you sure you installed them in the correct order and direction?


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yes i honed the cylinders, i checked the taper, i installed them correctly. I triple checked.
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Were they chrome or cast rings? I always recomnend cast for a simple re-ring job, it takes more than a ball hone to seat chrome ones.  If they are cast just run it a while, they should seat if it all was done right.

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Assuming you’ve got the correct crosshatch for the rings you’re using and the crankcase is not filled with synthetic oil, heat on the rings does the trick.  If you’re running a 160° thermostat, this can inhibit getting enough temperature into the rings to adequately seat them early.  My own preference for street engines is to use 190°/195° thermostats beginning with the first fire up.  Beyond all this, just try a half dozen part throttle accelerations in high gear from 30 to 70 mph and see if that doesn’t improve the blowby significantly.

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they're cast rings.



i took it for a decent highway drive today and the blow by is much better. still a little but its better, maybe as i continue to drive it it may clear up completely.



however i was noticing that as i took my foot off the pedal at those speeds there was a huge cloud of blue smoke i can't tell if this is coming from the exhaust or the crankcase. but it has me worried.



also the problem i was having before i ringed it is still there. under a moderate load (climbing a decent hill) i get some consistent backfiring, i found the #2 cylinder held only 30 psi with a compression test. bleed down test confirmed it was leaking into the bottom end, long story short after inspecting and checking the cylinder for taper i put rings in it. i haven't yet been able to do a compression test but if the compression holds what else could it be? I've put a new carb, new plugs, cap, rotor, points, coil, ballast resistor, rings, i"ve had the heads looked at. I've played with my timing god knows how many times... I'm at a loss and about ready to dump this motor.
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Did you take a good look at your cam when you had the bottom open?  A bad lobe can do what you describe.

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Worn timing chain?


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About the back firing, could the timing be out because the 50 year old damper has slipped, as has been reported?

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Hold on a minute.  You said above #2 had low compression and you honed the cylinder and put new rings in it.  Did you put new rings in #2 only, or in all 8 cylinders?

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