I hate the 3-speed in my `57 bird... it throws to long, it's sloppy, and three just aint enough.

I had a four speed Toploader in a Cobra kit almost 20 years ago, but I remember it as somewhat sloppy and long also.

The posts I've read make the T-5 very interesting... and obviously much more modern.

So for me, the trade-off beteen them is going to be install difficulty and degree of floor pan/frame modification.

I've read that a Chevy S-10 tail shaft can "easily" be exhanged on a Ford modle T-5 to move the shifter forward, but still wonder how much tunnel will still need to be cut away and patched. Also, some here mentioned a needed modification to the x-frame, but some more details (grafting, reinforcement, relocations) would be really helpful. And lastly, I wonder if a Mustang rear support could be modified or is the rear support totally custom.

I sounds, again from what I've read, that the Toploader is more straightforward, and perhaps somebody makes a short shift kit.

Any thoughts, challenges, and details would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers... Brian

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Current Experiment = `57 Tbird, Grand Rapids, Michigan