You have to get a master designed for drum brakes all around as drum brakes generally require a residual pressure valve (and more residual pressure than discs), regardless of where the master is located.



All drum only masters had residual pressure valves, including ones mounted on the firewall.

54 Victoria 312;  48 Ford Conv 302, 56 Bird 312
Forever Ford
Midland Park, NJ

I had a pushrod issue at first but I used the stock bird pushrod and put a bolt in the M/C to shorten the travel to about an inch or so. works fine now. The M/C fits without any issues concerning the exhaust as I have headers on the car. Can post pics if you need to see them. 

55Birdman  Hickory NC

I've got a pushrod issue, put the stock one in, good brakes but low pedal, the one that came with the dmc is to long, gonna have to cut that one down a bit. Granada non-power conversion. How much free play???? I've been told from a good source that just a little if any.

       

Gary, 55 Vicky, St. Germain, Wisconsin

 

55Birdman,



No exhaust proximity overheating/pushrod length issues?

6 VOLTS/POS. GRD. NW INDIANA

So I just have to get the new dual master. Thanks oldcar, appreciate it.

I have discs on my 55 Bird. Non power ,no proportioning valve. Stock spindles. I use a 78 Granada dual master cylinder, bolts right up. Working great for about a year now.

55Birdman  Hickory NC

If you are all drum you dont need the prop valve.It is there to control pressure to the front and rear when disc/drum are used.Disc front need more pressure first before the rear as fronts do about 70% of braking.Yes it is a prop valve but also closes off either front or rear brakes in case of a line failure in either system.You would still have brakes either front or rear if the other developed a leak.

  

So if I want to keep the drums on my '56 Squire but want a dual master cyl, all I need to find is a Granada/Monarch master and combo valve--is this the same as a "proportioning valve"? Also want to keep the brakes NON-power. Thanks.

Inspected disk installation recently on a 56 Bird. The guy thought the added stress of disk power justified oversized/HD spindles (Montclair?). If I was re-doing the whole front suspension along with a disk conversion, I might consider it since 50-plus years of duty is a lot to ask from parts so critical.

6 VOLTS/POS. GRD. NW INDIANA

I have the Granada set up on my 54.  Used the Granada master cyl.  If not using power, get the one for non-power brakes.  You should use the Granada combo valve.

54 Victoria 312;  48 Ford Conv 302, 56 Bird 312
Forever Ford
Midland Park, NJ