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Holley 390 CFM on a 55 292 with tea pot bolt pattern

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I have received a lot of help here so I thought I would tell everyone how I made this swap.

I have a 55 Merc with the tea pot and wanted the new 390 CFM Holley.  I did not want to buy a B manifold because I am still thinking about the Mummert manifold, even though I like a stock look.

I bought the 390 Holley and a Trans-Dapt carb adaptor (#2064) from Summit.  The adaptor comes with the holes cut in at the tea pot bolt pattern but the holes are not drilled all the way through.  I then purchase allen wrench driven bolts.  These were flat topped with a 45 degree angle from the edge of the head to the shaft.  I then had the machine shop drill the holes with the 45 degree taper so the head was slightly counter sunk and the angle of the bolt head matched the adaptor. 

The adaptor was then bolted to the manifold with the original spacer in place and the Holley was installed on the adapter.  The original throttle rod fit perfectly into a hole on the Holley but the clip that held it on the tea pot did not.  The machine shop drilled a small hole in this shaft for a cotter pin to secure it in the linkage of the carb.

My oil bath was dried out and dust and crumbles were falling out of it.  I reused the oil bath by using someone elses idea from this site.  I cut out the guts that are attached to the top lid of the oil bath, put the base of the oil bath on the carb,  then installed a 9" chrome air cleaner inside the base with a wingnut to secure, and finally put the lid over the after market air cleaner with its own nut.  It is a good paper element air cleaner inside but appears to be the stock oil bath on the engine.

I hope this gives somone some alternatives for a carb upgrade without a manifold change. The change to the new Holley is like night and day over the tea pot.  The adaptor costs about $20, bolts were $4, and the machine work cost $10.  The other adaptors I found on the internet were about $90-100.  At that price I would have bought the B manifold off of Ebay.


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I have received a lot of help here so I thought I would tell everyone how I made this swap.

I have a 55 Merc with the tea pot and wanted the new 390 CFM Holley.  I did not want to buy a B manifold because I am still thinking about the Mummert manifold, even though I like a stock look.

I bought the 390 Holley and a Trans-Dapt carb adaptor (#2064) from Summit.  The adaptor comes with the holes cut in at the tea pot bolt pattern but the holes are not drilled all the way through.  I then purchase allen wrench driven bolts.  These were flat topped with a 45 degree angle from the edge of the head to the shaft.  I then had the machine shop drill the holes with the 45 degree taper so the head was slightly counter sunk and the angle of the bolt head matched the adaptor. 

The adaptor was then bolted to the manifold with the original spacer in place and the Holley was installed on the adapter.  The original throttle rod fit perfectly into a hole on the Holley but the clip that held it on the tea pot did not.  The machine shop drilled a small hole in this shaft for a cotter pin to secure it in the linkage of the carb.

My oil bath was dried out and dust and crumbles were falling out of it.  I reused the oil bath by using someone elses idea from this site.  I cut out the guts that are attached to the top lid of the oil bath, put the base of the oil bath on the carb,  then installed a 9" chrome air cleaner inside the base with a wingnut to secure, and finally put the lid over the after market air cleaner with its own nut.  It is a good paper element air cleaner inside but appears to be the stock oil bath on the engine.

I hope this gives somone some alternatives for a carb upgrade without a manifold change. The change to the new Holley is like night and day over the tea pot.  The adaptor costs about $20, bolts were $4, and the machine work cost $10.  The other adaptors I found on the internet were about $90-100.  At that price I would have bought the B manifold off of Ebay.

Congratulations on your most informative and successfull carb swap, this sort of simple and well detailed article by you is part of what this site is about, a job well done! Tongue

  AussieBill            YYYY    Forever Y Block     YYYY

 Down Under, Australia

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Creative thinking on your part. Thanks for sharing. Mike

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which distributer are you using?

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the new 390 CFM Holley






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Which "new" Holley are you talking about?








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If using the newer style 390 cfm holley I would use the later 57 and up style distributer because the later holley will not give your engine the vacuum it needs under load which is not good for the engine.

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The old distributor is still in it.   I am changing to the 57 and up distributor as soon as I get some time.  I plan to go to the Pertronix as well as the coil, wires and plugs at the same time.


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If you  are going with Pertronix I would suggest the Pertronix 2.Has the overheat protector if you leave the key in the "ön" position when working on it for example.The Pertronix 1 will burn out if left on.I just bought the P2 for mine.

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Have you gotten the distributor yet? I went on Napa's website, and couldn't find the right one. I also have a 55 Merc, and I am sick of my t-pot leaking everywhere and giving me grief even after rebuilding it. I think she has seen better days as the years of sitting with old fuel in her have messed up the integrity of the metal. I am going to change mine over to the 390 cfm as well. Thanks for all the other info, it will help me a lot! BigGrin



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I think that was my plan for the oil bath conversion; glad it worked out!

One suggestion on the intake - I have one of the early mummert intakes, and I just painted it engine color.  Nobody notices that it isnt stock.  Pretty funny, actually.  From looking at the website, his new one has the "Mummert" logo on it, so you would have that to contend with.  Ive been trying to figure out if there is a good way to remove that and blend it in with the rest of the casting so I could do the updated manifold and paint it similar to my current setup.

And Kevinwalshe, I may have a holley 390 that im going to put up on ebay or sell here soon, although honestly after running them back to back, I found the Holley 465 that is designed for these engines to make a little more power than the 390 without losing throttle response.  Just something to consider

Ron Grove

Wauconda, IL



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