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54Customline4dr (8/23/2011)
I noticed the 54 has only a front pulley while the 292 had a balancer. Will the 54 pulley and flex plate affect the balance on the 292?
Balance will not be affected.  All Y’s are internally balanced meaning the flywheels and dampers are all ‘zero’ balanced and can be interchanged freely between the various engines.

Is the timing cover and water pump different from '54 239 to '57 292?
Yes.  Timing cover for the ’54 engines is different to accommodate the different fuel pump and water pump that’s on the 239 and 256 engines.

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paul2748 (8/6/2011)
I did the same thing, only with an automatic car (54).



If you use the steady rest, you will need a 55/56 one as the later balancer will not clear the 54 steady rest.




Hi, newbie doing a search on this topic. I have a 54 with Fordomatic and just picked up a 57 292 to swap in. I noticed the 54 has only a front pulley while the 292 had a balancer. Will the 54 pulley and flex plate affect the balance on the 292?



Is the timing cover and water pump different from '54 239 to '57 292?



I got the '57 292 with carb and distributor, I have read that the distributor is different with mechanical advance.



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Yes.  Tap the plug out of the truck block at the front for the passenger  dipstick tube, put some sealer on it and tap it into the hole where the  truck dipstick tube is now.  Taps out from the bottom, in from the top.

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Will the oil pan and dip stick from my 239 work on the 292?
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You may also need to change the pilot bearing in the crank, which while you have it apart would be cheap insurance anyway.

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You will need to use the passenger car pan with the front sump.  It's a bolt-on.  Also the passenger dipstick and tube will be required.

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I did the same thing, only with an automatic car (54). You can run stock 55-60's exhausts manifolds but you will need the 55/56 Z bar (clutch crossover) in order to run the exhaust pipe that is attached to the exhaust manifold. Otherwise, use all the 54 parts.



You will notice that the 54 Z Bar is straight whereas the 55/56 has a bend in it to allow you to run the pipe.



If you use the steady rest, you will need a 55/56 one as the later balancer will not clear the 54 steady rest.

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Thanks guys. Im going to do it at my friends shop. He's got everything I need there to do it. So welding anything up will be easy.
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when i swapped mine, the clutch pivot was different setup where it bolts to motor, i had to use a 56 truck pivot,54 pivot, and cut weld them together to make my own...and i did duel exhaust with stock exhaust manifolds from a later 56 which makes everything super close on drivers side hence the reason they used crossover....if you could the rare drivers side with indentation it would be ideal, and i have heard good things about red head's
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You can use a set from Red's, or John Mummert, or even the 57 up exhaust manifolds you have. Pretty much a bolt in from there.

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