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312 Worn harmonic balancer seal area

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Thanks Ted, I installed the sleeve a few weeks ago and used the green locktite. Went well except that an extra 32nd or so on the sleeve length would have been nice.

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lyonroad (1/22/2013)
.... Should I be using some sort of adhesive like the green lock tite or should I lubricate the sleeve before I press it on. I googled this and one person said to fill in the groove on the balancer with JB Weld and sand it smooth before installation. Any one have experience with this? Thanks
The green Loctite would be my choice. In lieu of Loctite, then coating the worn area with Copper Coat prior to pressing the sleeve in place would be another option. Any kind of sealer would likely suffice though as long as the sleeve is not installed dry.

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I machined mine down just 100 thousands and took care of the leaking front seal just enough to move seal lip off the old grove area did have to re-space my top water pump pulley to keep the belt totaly true in the grove some thing to watch out for.
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Ordered a pair of Micro-Sleeve MS229-1 balancer repair sleeves from Silver Seal Products in Trenton MI. They are the right length for the Y block balancer. The second one is in case the first one gets accidentally mangled. Price on line was $4.99 reduced from $7.14 but when they arrived the price I paid was $2.99 each. I guess they felt sorry for me because shipping to the west coast was $17.52. I should have ordered 10.



Should I be using some sort of adhesive like the green lock tite or should I lubricate the sleeve before I press it on. I googled this and one person said to fill in the groove on the balancer with JB Weld and sand it smooth before installation. Any one have experience with this? Thanks

Mark

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1955 Ford Fairlane Club Sedan
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This is the repaired harmonic balancer shaft, notice the end cut down, so the sleeve will travel down more on the shaft. 

Thanks for the picture size hint.

Barry

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Does anyone know where one could purchase a Micro-Sleeve part #MS229-1?

Thanks, Mark

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TcLabare (12/3/2012)
...... I tried to upload a picture of the repaired shaft, but it says the space has been exceeded. Oh well. ...
If you’ll resize the picture before inserting it, the site will have less difficulty with it.  While the site can resize larger pictures to a degree, if they are too large it overwhelms the software.  500 wide or 500 tall is the maximum sizes the site will display so that’s a good place to start when resizing the pictures.

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The brand was Fel-Pro.  I looked at several suppliers and all the sleeves were really made for a small block Ford, they have the same diameter crankshaft, so they will fit a y-block.  The only problem with mine, the sleeve was about 1/4 inch short, and did not cover the groove worn by the timing cover seal.  I was owner/manager of an auto parts store for 14 years, and I am usually pretty good at finding parts, the y-block is getting harder to find stuff as time goes by.  I bought this T-Bird in 1976, and it was a lot cheaper and more easy to find parts.  I tried to upload a picture of the repaired shaft, but it says the space has been exceeded. Oh well. 

Thanks for all the help, Barry

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TcLabare (11/19/2012)
.... I bought one today, but the sleeve is almost too short to cover the grove.  I'm still looking for a longer one, with the same inside diameter, this one is .920 long, I need it to be about  1.250 or near there.

Thanks again, Barry

The Micro-Sleeve part #MS229-1 is listed for the 292/312 Fords but I see where it also fits some other applications.  What brand sleeve were you dealing with?

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Barry, since you live in Texas, you might check with Don Hyde-FordCraft. Not an online guy, here's his #, 972--423-4636. He can get you about anything you need and is very knowledgeable about Birds.



I am surprised you couldn't find the proper sleeve, I got mine for the same issue at O'Reilly's Auto Parts. Also surprised you machined the collar and got it to work! But hey I learned something new. Welcome to the forum.



Pressurizing the rockers is one way to go. All mine work fine without that treatment. you can read up on here with a search about the various methods and issues for doing that.









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