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I have been through the archives and still haven't found what I need. My generator on the 57 Bird died today. I want to install a Ford/Motorcraft conventional 3 wire alternator not a GM part. I need some info on mounting bracketry. I see Mummert has them for Yblocks but not Tbirds. I don't want a Powermaster, etc. or a conversion kit because if needed, I want to be able to replace the alternator from a local parts store, not special order stuff. 60 amps or so is fine for my needs. Anyone have a source for the brackets I would need?

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I have seen several examples of using the existing brackets for the Generator with a little handiwork and spacers to mount an alternator.It can be done and doesn't look mickey-mouse.Get hold of the alternator and go from there.

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mark, I used this method to install a alternator years ago. I'm sure you will have to modify it a little to fit your 'Bird. Has worked fine... Surprised to see it's still on the net http://www.y-block.info/tips/alt/alt.html Google is your friend Smooooth

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I have done a couple of installations in the far distant past using the Ford alternator that was common in the 70's (such as the 55 amp). I remember being somewhat stumped on wiring, and used the harness from a parts car. I sort of experimented with it until I found the right combination, but never was able to get the factory dash indicator light to work. If anyone does this conversion using the Ford alternator, a diagram of how you wire it sure would be much appreciated.



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Thanks for the help. I will be heading to the pic&pull later this week for a core alternator and harness. I still need to decide about a 15 Ohm resistor to go parallel with the warning light bulb. I understand that if the bulb burns out, the alternator stops charging, so the resistor is the back up for the circuit. Am I right about this?

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mark, I used this method to install a alternator years ago. I'm sure you will have to modify it a little to fit your 'Bird. Has worked fine... Surprised to see it's still on the net http://www.y-block.info/tips/alt/alt.html Google is your friend Smooooth


The second picture showing the mounting bracket using most of the existing brackets is the one I was thinking of.I think you could refine it even further if you looked at for awhile.

http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/Uploads/Images/a82cee8f-be33-4d66-b65d-fcd8.jpg  http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/339ed844-0bc3-4c73-8368-5dd3.jpg
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Mark, here is another option to consider, keep the look but change the function - but not cheap! Tony b
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i'm looking to install a ford 3g large case on my setup and have been doing lots of "surfing" unfortunately my puter crashed about a week ago and i lost all my book marks photos etc.

i think you are correct about the resistor. and be careful of the early ford 2g alternators i believe they were a fire risk because the connectors were spade connectors not a more beefy stud.

good luck

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Regarding the PowerGen alternator in a generator case, I looked at it but the price doesn't work for me. Also, if it were to fail, usually at the most difficult time, I want to be able to find a replacement at a local auto parts store.

My 65 Galaxie has stud mounted connections but I haven't made it to the Pick&Pull yet. Finding anything that early would be rare around here, mostly late 70's is the oldest stuff in the yards. Also been looking for info on using a 15 ohm resistor from Radio Shack, etc. instead of rooting around for a resistor wire in the wrecking yard.

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MarkMontereyBay (11/11/2013)
Thanks for the help. I will be heading to the pic&pull later this week for a core alternator and harness. I still need to decide about a 15 Ohm resistor to go parallel with the warning light bulb. I understand that if the bulb burns out, the alternator stops charging, so the resistor is the back up for the circuit. Am I right about this?


Mark,
I have heard of installing a resistor if you don't run a warning light so it might be true. Never heard of having a light and a resistor tho.

I DO KNOW that there is sometimes a need to run a diode in the excitor wire to prevent backfeed to the ignition. NOT FUN when you shut off your engine and it keeps running. w00tw00t


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