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Scrub auto tranny in Tbird (don't yell at me)

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I saw a thread talking about putting a scrub tranny in a Tbird.  I really want to put a more modern auto overdrive tranny in the 55 I am restoring but don't want to cut the frame to accommodate like I would with the Ford AOD.  We intend to really drive this a lot once its done.  Any leads or help in sorting through this is appreciated.  I promise it would be the only Scrub part I have every owned in my life.
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Hey: Remember that its your car and if putting in an R700 or R200 means that it gets driven more and is more fun to drive go for it. If you can put it in without cutting the frame it can always be undone at a later date. My opinion. Pete
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The Y-Block movement is about the engines and then some about the car.  I do not hear much talk about Fordo's or 9 inchers, so transmissions and rear axles should be fair game.  If anyone around here should feel guilty it would be me for running chevy 6 cyl rods in the race truck!

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This is just my opinion.With the downsizing and massive changes comming in the manufacture of new vehicles I think you will see more and more interchange of parts between all the different carbuilders.For example  you may well see the same tranny or motor in Fords,GM's and Chrysler(if they survive at all).The fact that there is a better fitting transmission for this particuler Bird and its a "scrub" is not a problem for me.If the motor was a "scrub" than he would obviously need to find a new site.Besides I like the fact that he intends  to DRIVE it a lot not park it and look at it.Just my 2 cents worth.

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Appreciate the thoughts.  Promise I am going to cherry out the Yblock and the rest of the bird.  Can anyone recomend a source for this swap and who can assist with parts?
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The Y-Block movement is about the engines and then some about the car.




Absolutely!



That's why I'm putting the E4OD in my F-600, but keeping the "Y"



Ok, now I guess this is a stupid question......What's a "Scrub Tranny"? (I don't want to do a search for ANY kind of tranny w00t )




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Try out this Wilcap outfit site -

http://www.wilcap.com/index.html

Al Frakes put an AOD in his outfit - and trimmed the very top edge of the crossmember a tiny (and I mean tiny) amount to get it in there. If some future owner is offended by that - I suppose they could weld the itty bitty relief back and grind on it a awhile.   

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Hello Rick,Any component thats NOT Ford is considered a "scrub" but mainly it refers to the car manufacturer who's first letter is "G" and second letter is before "N".By the way no question is stupid if you don't know the answer.

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Thanks! nice 55! My Dad had a 2 door 55! I had a 57!



(Well, I still have a 55!)

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As Steve mentioned, I did trim the x member in my 55. Only an expert tbird person could ever tell it was done I think. Looks like a factory thing.

Anyway, so that would give let you put an AOD in there. I used the Bendtson adapter and kit which incudes a high torque mini starter flywheel and adapters.

It will (I think) work also with a scrub R700 trans by using a different flywheel and crankshaft adapter. I discussed which trans to install with Bob Bendsten if he were doing his own Tbird and he recommended the AOD.



I kept my old Fordomatic and all assorted hardware so that if the person who gets my car after I'm dead- can return it to it's old ineffiecent, heavy self.



After owning this car all these years I can't ever see going back to stock now or worrying about the half inch I shaved off the x-member that no one would know about if I hadn't told. ; )



I also was able to retain the stock shifter which WAS A MUST for me and have full selection with it.

Here's a pic of how I did it.
















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