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Did anybody mention you have to run with a restrictor plate at Columbus this year?

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Y-Guy Dennis:     You really know how to "wake" everyone up on a Saturday

              morning. I think Greg and his Pinto 312 need one!!!(My restrictor

              is between my ears!!!)                     

                                                  Bill

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Getting back to the lifter and hardness question; It's my understanding that both steel and iron lifters were available for the Y's. Can both types be resurfaced? Also, if I'm not mistaken, originally the lifters were heated in an oven and quenched with oil for the hardness/tempering process. Maybe I'm wrong on this (wouldn't be the first time), but it would be good to know if the resurfaced lifters go through any type of hardening process. I wonder if new lifters are even hardened these days.

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Let's see if I can remember each question.  First I would say a definite "NO" to using used lifters on a new cam, just look at all the other concerns, do you want to worry about that too?  I have used nothing but refaced stock Ford lifters and the only trouble I have had was before I sorted out the oil problem (ZDDP), nothing but good luck since then.  I believe factory Ford lifters are the same hardness all the way through and refacing takes very little off anyway. When you assemble your engine another thing to be careful of is lifters that sick in the bore for some reason, they should be able to spin freely.  Good assembly lube and good oil (Brad Penn in my case) is a must and be careful of high spring pressures, I actually have a set of heads that have light, old, stock springs that I break-in the race engines with then swap heads after about 20-30 min. run time.  Yes, if your cam is going to destroy itself it will most likely happen in the first 20-30 min. after that hard runs and high spring pressure may wear on it slowly but it should take a bit of time.

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I should add another plug for  http://www.oregoncamshaft.com/  , very nice folk, they have always been good to me and their MP-34 grind has really done good things for our 258ci Y in the "Yellow Brick" we tried other cams but have gone back to it, just can't beat it. Wink  I have gone to a different grind for the "LSR Uni" but it will have almost 100 more cubes so a little different timing and a bit more lift. BigGrin

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Harnes is done many different ways, Carburized, thru hardened, case hardened, Induction hardened etc. I beleive the earlier Ford lifters were thru hardened and when they went to the later 270/285 HP cam they mention some induction hardened lifters needed to be used with them since they had a wear hardening surface. (see DK post on 285 cam) In any case the induction hardened are more than likely 1/8" depth which you should never get through resurfacing.

I agree with resurfacing for security reasons.

We need a list of safe lifters posted some where and the ones to stay away from.

I see those VL21 ones listed at Maddog racing and elsewhere, Have these been examined?

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Billy,

I had proposed a forum topic on here to list just that. Our experiences with the good the bad and the ugly. Along with parts that didn't fit AND the companies that sell this junk. Even a listing of companies that didn't provide good support. Not a place for rants but a real listing of "friends to the hobby". Chuck in NH

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Thanks guys.  I have sent some e-mails waitin for some responses from the mentioned shops. 
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Tim: My core motor was an untouched 1957 292. Would the lifters from it be good ones to resurface? I understand there are "chilled iron", "hardenable iron", and "steel". How do we know what we`re dealing with? I hav`nt been around Y blocks for 40 years so I got some catching up to do in this area. Thanks.

Greg Dietrich Mt.Morris Il
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Here's a couple of pix.  the "steel" ones have a thin looking base (left in top picture and second picture) while the cast "chilled iron" are thicker (right in top and third).  I myself prefer the "Steel" but the Iron ones seem to hold up just fine and are quite hard.



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