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THANK YOU very much!  Got them!

I may have missed it in this thread; are the part numbers the same for t-bird & fairlane? 

Thanks!!

Ron Grove

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Hey guys, just as an update.  I tried ordering the kits from macs, and a few days later got a note that the parts were "on indefinate manufacturer backorder"  They dont know when they will get more.

I went down to my local napa and they ordered the parts and had them in a few days.  I just hope they are the right ones - we just grabbed PNs from a mid 60's full size ford, so we will see....

Anyways, if anyone is thinking of doing this, start local!!

Ron Grove

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Hello Ron! Were the numbers the same ones I came up with on an earlier post on this topic?Let us know how it works out and the Napa #'s you used.

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Ok, heres the deal...

Part numbers I used were (from Napa) UP80691 for the Left, and UP90692 for the right.  I did NOT need any extra spring kit, etc, as the lower spring worked with the self adjuster kit.  So for now everything is installed, but I guess I wont know if they are really working for a while yet?

Some thoughts/observations (I’ve only done the front axle so far):

Really easy to do.  Very straightforward, and a good time to lube the backing plates/contact points with the shoes

Pre-adjust the star adjuster prior to reassembly as best you can and BEFORE you put the drums on.  The ones on (I think it was) the drivers side are NOT accessible through the slot in the backing plate once assembled, as they are now in a different location.

The cables, etc go towards the back of the car

Very easy to install the kit once you figure it out

GOOD LUCK finding the 2-1/2" fender washers.  I may have to get some on line-I used 2" washers for now, but I’m not crazy about them.  Under just the right circumstances, it seems they could cause the shoe to not retract and leave the brake stuck; the 2-1/2" would be better by far.  Also, don’t try making your own retainers out of 1/8" bar stock.....its too thick to allow the cable end to seat on the anchor pin properly....should have measured that before I made several of them....

Id be interested to know if anyone has been running this for a while and if they have had any problems....the fender washers seem kind of thin to hold the shoes in alignment....although there shouldn’t be much lateral load on them....but I have to think ford made the originals so thick for a reason? 

Haven’t done the backs yet; I wont until I figure out what to do on the retainers.  Not sure if it will be any more difficult due to parking brake mechanism or not....Ill post if I run into any issues when I do it.

Now on to figuring out why my brand new Demon Jr runs like absolute CRAP right out of the box (think undriveable....AARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!)

Ron Grove

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Ok, heres the deal...

Part numbers I used were (from Napa) UP80691 for the Left, and UP90692 for the right.  I did NOT need any extra spring kit, etc, as the lower spring worked with the self adjuster kit.  So for now everything is installed, but I guess I wont know if they are really working for a while yet?

Some thoughts/observations (I’ve only done the front axle so far):

Really easy to do.  Very straightforward, and a good time to lube the backing plates/contact points with the shoes

Pre-adjust the star adjuster prior to reassembly as best you can and BEFORE you put the drums on.  The ones on (I think it was) the drivers side are NOT accessible through the slot in the backing plate once assembled, as they are now in a different location.

The cables, etc go towards the back of the car

Very easy to install the kit once you figure it out

GOOD LUCK finding the 2-1/2" fender washers.  I may have to get some on line-I used 2" washers for now, but I’m not crazy about them.  Under just the right circumstances, it seems they could cause the shoe to not retract and leave the brake stuck; the 2-1/2" would be better by far.  Also, don’t try making your own retainers out of 1/8" bar stock.....its too thick to allow the cable end to seat on the anchor pin properly....should have measured that before I made several of them....

Id be interested to know if anyone has been running this for a while and if they have had any problems....the fender washers seem kind of thin to hold the shoes in alignment....although there shouldn’t be much lateral load on them....but I have to think ford made the originals so thick for a reason? 

Haven’t done the backs yet; I wont until I figure out what to do on the retainers.  Not sure if it will be any more difficult due to parking brake mechanism or not....Ill post if I run into any issues when I do it.

Now on to figuring out why my brand new Demon Jr runs like absolute CRAP right out of the box (think undriveable....AARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!)

Ron- How is everything working with adjusters and have you done the rears yet?

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So far, everything has worked out great!  Brakes are conssitently smooth/linear, with no pull, so I assume all is working ok.

Im still not comfortable with having to use the 2" fender washers (vs 2.5"), as in my mind htere is the chance they will hang up a shoe (although probably not possible, it just "looks" that way).  Problem is that I cant find 2.5" fender washers anywhere...I was going to post to see if someone on here could find some at there local hardware or farm & fleet store and send them to me, but never got around to it.

Havent done the rears yet for no other reason than I want to be sure I have the larger washeres (if at all possible)..

Ron Grove

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Hello Ron! The kit #'s 80691 and 80692 were actually for the rear brakes.Did you in fact use them on the front?80695 and 80696 were for the front.Cant be much difference if they worked on the front.

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